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Wednesday, March 8, 2017

COMCAST OR ATLANTIC BROADBAND?


SOME THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND:

In a straw vote at the March 3 Delegate Assembly, an overwhelming number of the delegates voted for Comcast (CC) as opposed to Atlantic Broadband (AB) to be our cable company for an upcoming ten years providing TV, OPTIONAL Internet, and OPTIONAL phone service.

This was not a final vote, however. The time for that will come when negotiations with both companies have been completed and their final proposals are in, the "I's" dotted and the "t's" crossed. The straw vote was to get an idea of how the delegates feel at this point.

I am not attempting here to convince anybody one way or the other between CC and AB, but to mention a few points to consider:

1. We do not have forever, as some suggest, to decide one way or the other. The present Comcast contract expires in June 2019, and Atlantic Broadband—if they are to remain a viable contender—needs 18 months to get their fiber-optic cable from North Miami to the Village, and then throughout the Village and to our condos. (I don't believe they will be actually digging a trench from North Miami to CV. I believe that part will be a matter of leasing equipment already in place and getting permits—but this still takes considerable time. Actual trenching, however, will be done in the Village.) You can do the math to see when negotiations need to be completed—I should think in the fall.

2. It is vital that AB and Comcast REMAIN viable contenders, as it is the competition that has forced each company to progressively over the past few months "sweeten the pot." 
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AB has advised us that the TiVo T-6 will have a modification allowing it to accept voice commands just like the Comcast Infinity X1 system. This is the newest "pot sweetener" (DBI)
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Our business is worth a great deal to them, that is certain. But if CC sees that AB is not in the running because there is no longer sufficient time for them to get their cable to us, then, as Dave Israel says, expect a whole new ballgame with CC's prices skyrocketing. Nothing is final until a contract has been drawn up by the lawyers and signed by all the parties.

3. Keep in mind that costs and benefits are not always what they might seem. For example, a $500,000 cost (or benefit) difference for the Village over ten years between the two companies breaks down to only 54 CENTS per condo unit per month. (Divide $500,000 by 10 years, then by 12 months, and finally by 7800 units.) To give an example, that might seem a very small price to pay for greater customer satisfaction.

4. Keep in mind that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. If you have the best fiber-optic cable installed right up TO a residence and the wiring inside the unit is questionable, the "signal" at the TV or other appliance may be poor. With which company can we be more certain of the inside wiring being top-notch—as it needs to be?
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Both providers will check the interior wiring, and if the signal strength is inadequate, will replace the wiring at no cost to us. (DBI)
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5. The single most important thing about a cable contract, Leo Delgardo of CSI Associates has told us, is getting service when you need it—the first time you call, service that fixes the problem, and service that to the extent possible is cost-free. Pros and cons to consider are: past customer satisfaction, the company's experience over time, if they will have a technician on site daily, and how the cost (if any) is calculated.
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AB has agreed to an on-site service Tech. availability. (DBI)
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6. Does it make sense to go with a company that, yes, is the giant in the industry with years of experience, but also has a reputation of having been unresponsive to customers with problems? Or does it make sense to go with a smaller, relatively new company (that isn't really a brand-new company; in fact its parent company, Cogeco, is the eighth largest telecommunications company in North America), on the assumption that the new company, which badly wants our business in order to set itself up in southeastern Florida, will be more motivated to please? Do you go with a known quantity or a less-well-known quantity?

7. Both companies are now offering ten-year contracts, but (from what I understand) a new Comcast contract could start from this fall, not June 2019. Whereas June 2019 would be the start date with AB. Thus, while with CC the new contract might expire in the fall of 2027, we would be locked into a new AB contract until June 2029, about 18 months later.

I believe the above are some important things to consider, especially if the prices the two companies propose are close. My thanks to all on the Committee, who have labored long and diligently to bring this great benefit of TV with the options of Internet and/or telephone—all at unheard-of low prices—to Century Village. Please feel free, any of you who know better, to correct anything I have said.
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Good Post Lanny, perhaps a good article for the UCO Reporter. (DBI)
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10 comments:

  1. I think that Atlantic Broadband is hoping to expand their business at our expense. I do have problems with Comcast from time to time but they do fix their problems quickly and help over the phone. I would stick with who we already know than experiment with a new company. In Montreal the big company is Videotron. I have not heard of Atlantic Broadband.

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    1. Nice to see you at the Computer Club luncheon, Grace, and thanks for your comment. Atlantic Broadband, by that name, is probably little known among Canadians, but Cogeco, the parent company, is supposed to be big in Canada. Perhaps you've heard of it?

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    2. Never heard of them either.

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    3. Of course we know Cogeco. It is true that Videotron is the main cable in Montréal (with Bell acting as ATT here) but Cogeco is well known in the Laurentides, in tne North shore of the St-Laurent River and also in Ontario. Look at the region they are desserving: http://www.tvcogeco.com/selection . Cogeco have a good reputation in Canada.

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  2. Hi Lanny, thanks for emphasizing the importance of choosing a broadband supplier NOW. There are people making phone calls to say wait a year or two for a better price. This is rubbish, we can only get better prices while there is competition. AB only has this year to compete then they will not have time to install cable. AB and CC have already pushed their prices down to an excellent level. DO NOT WAIT!

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  3. Hi Dave,
    Thanks for your comments in RED. I had hoped anyone "in the know" would feel free to do that. At least I assume they are your comments—I don't know what DBI stands for. (Probably something obvious I will think of four hours from now.)

    This "Tivo T-6" modification enabling one to give voice commands to the TV was something I thought entirely unnecessary and a gimmick, but everyone who has it in one form or another seems to like it a lot. A few days ago a friend and I were wondering about something (I forget what now), and she spoke one word into a small hand-held gadget (Smart phone?), and up popped the answer! So I guess this is a neat thing to have, and it should make life easier for some of our elderly. It's nice now that both CC and AB offer it.

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  4. Hi Lanny,
    DBI = David Benjamin Israel.

    Dave

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    1. Yes, it dawned on me just now, a little more than four hours after my comment. I was actually in bed trying to see if sleep would come, and the thought flashed through my mind: What could DBI stand for? Some military abbreviation like NLT (not later than)? I could think of several adjectives that your detractors might have thought up (no, I'm not going to say what they were), and then I realized that the D and I were your initials, and the B must stand for your middle name. Confirmed, thank you! I like Benjamin. It's Netanyahu's first name. You aren't from the tribe of Benjamin, are you? I had a boyhood friend named Ben, but it was the nickname for Bengt (Swedish), which probably means Benjamin. Gotta see if I can get to sleep now.....

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  5. I don't very often read the (well-named) "From the Other Side," blog, but I skimmed very quickly through some of it tonight on a friend's recent recommendation: "You've gotta see THIS!" There was not much change, I should say—the usual rantings about Trump and Dave—but then, scrolling down, I saw myself mentioned several times. Huzzah, what's this!

    Apparently Esther is convinced from the post to which this is a comment that I favor Atlantic Broadband over Comcast "hands down." Now that's an interesting discovery, for that's not what I said at the beginning of the article at all, and even now, several days later, I haven't made up my mind between the two companies! Could it be that Esther with some "special powers of perception" knows my own mind better than I do?

    I'm thinking this could be a handy kind of person to have around for those times when I don't seem to be able to make up my mind. Should I go on that trip? Should I buy steak or chicken? "Just dial up ASK-EST-HERS. She'll tell you what you think you don't know but really do."

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  6. Is Esther's post about my favoring Atlantic Broadband (AB) "fake news"? It is if she knew I wasn't pushing AB and purposely wrote what she did. I'd like to think it wasn't knowingly fake news and was perhaps rather, a combination of her reading too hastily and reading in what she WANTED mine to say so she could get in some more "digs."

    Fake news—which certainly does seem to come from some in our malcontent camp—is a very dangerous thing. Perhaps not as regards our little Century Village, but it is on a national scale, especially when the mainstream news media is heavily involved in it. When the public believes enough of the purposely false communications, it may be only a step or two away from anarchy.

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