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Well, the County mandated re-striping has begun, this is what it is all about; blowing the whistle to bring the power of the County Government down upon our Senior Citizens over a matter of inches between parking lot stripes:
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A real Casas Belli if I ever saw one!!
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Dave Israel
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When will we know the cost of this gross mistake, permits, restripe, and consequential damages. ($ ?K)
ReplyDeleteWhat was the cost of other major ego-driven political useless exercises, rent refund law suit ($700K I think), and the great mold pandemic treatments ($ ?K).
If there is a cost to pay for the re striping send the bill to Ed Grossman. He was very proud of himself to blow the whistle. Let us see if he will foot the bill.
ReplyDeleteI suppose the world is made up of all kinds of people, and Century Village certainly has all kinds of people...but why Ed Grossman, did you not go to UCO to discuss your grievance before tattling like a little boy and saying "I'll how them",just to make yourself feel good!!!
ReplyDeleteWhile I can understand the frustration shared by some folks concerning the additional cost of the striping, I do not think a personal attack on Mr. Grossman is warranted.
ReplyDeleteIf the striping is not up to code, he has every right to bring it to the attention of the proper authorities.
One of the greatest challenges C.V. faces is the breakdown in the adherence to many of the rules that have kept C.V. a safe and clean place for many decades. To many, some of the rules are antiquated and overly oppressive. But, in the grand scheme these rules have served us well.
At the end of the day, it is best to comply with all codes, not just the ones we pick and choose as warranted and necessary. Asking someone to enter a conspiracy of silence is wrong, regardless of the consequences. Personally attacking that person only makes it worse.
Finally, if our striping deviated from the current code, why did we not seek a variance from its application prior to re-striping?
Dear ejs2283: Grossman is an embarassment and is only part of the small crazy group that is upset with Dave Israel.
ReplyDeleteHi ejs2283,
ReplyDeleteJune 9, 2012 11:18 AM,
You should attend a meeting of our Delegate Assembly and see who is attacking whom! Better yet, catch the video, right here on the BLOG.
Having said that, let's talk about "code"! Code enforcement is about the difference between strict "black and white", and real world "shades of grey"!
If, you go to GOOGLE Earth, you may see Century Village as it was prior to the re-striping of the new asphalt overlay. Using the ruler tool, you may measure hundreds of spaces, and guess what, to a first order, or even a second order of approximation, they are nine feet wide.
This is real world field measurements. Code enforcement sees things only in black and white, if a dime dropper leads the inspector to the 1 in one hundred space that is 8 feet 9 inches wide; guess what! Violation, re-do it all, simply ludicrous. Management companies have been repainting stripes here in CV for decades without ever even pulling a Permit.
Furthermore if one stands up at Delegate Assembly and loudly proclaims that he was proud of going to Code Enforcement, because "I did not like the contract"! This is child playground justice!! Remember, "I'm going to tell my Mommy"
Dave Israel
Dave Israel
Dave,
ReplyDeleteYour are exactly right. Code is black and white. That is why there is a mechanism called a variance for such cases where the deviance is minor or compliance can not be achieved. Why was a variance not sought?
I understand that there are folks attacking you. That goes with the territory. If you can recall some of my earlier posts, you should be aware that I am one of your most strident supporters. I continue to support and applaud your efforts. But, personal attacks regardless of who that person is, should be out of bounds. You represent all the residents of C.V. even those who do not support you.
I feel the blame is misplaced from the person who was unaware or ignored the mandates of the Code. That is where responsibility lies, not with a resident who exercised his right to point out a code violation, even if it is minor and perhaps unwarranted.
Understand your point: codes are black and white and accordingly, re-paving is underway. What many of us take exception to is the lack of recognition that in any 40-year-old complex, some codes are bound to be in non-compliance, and counties tend to enforce those those that threaten the safety of residents or property --unless someone brings the violations to their attention, forcing them to act.
ReplyDeleteIn this case, no one's security or safety was affected and to my knowledge, no attempt was made by the informant to work with UCO or county authorities to seek a varaiance or other remedy short of disruption to residents for mere inches of paint. The resident in question did not just "point out a violation": he reported it and subjected us to turmoil on many levels.
As often is the case, the problem is not with the issue itself, but with the way a problem is addressed. In this case, our informant was all too happy to report us without trying to work with UCO to find a better solution. Thank you, ejs2283, for presenting a rational argument for your position on this issue. Nice to be able to agree to disagree without rancor.